<p>Presented with a petition to lower the speed limit on Beach Road, Tisbury selectmen said this week they would support the initiative and pass it along to the state.</p>
Presented with a petition to lower the speed limit on Beach Road, Tisbury selectmen said this week they would support the initiative and pass it along to the state.
Ralph M. Packer Jr. presented the board Tuesday with the petition signed by 150 people who are property owners, renters and employees, asking the speed limit be lowered to 20 mph from Five Corners to Wind’s Up, and 30 mph from Wind’s Up to the Lagoon Pond drawbridge. Petitioners also requested the installation of a pedestrian warning signal with flashing lights for the crosswalk at Wind’s Up.
Talk of lowering the speed limits on Beach Road surfaced repeatedly during the recent discussions about the road improvement project that has now gone to state highway officials. Many believe the road is dangerous and unsafe for pedestrians and cyclists.
Mr. Packer, a businessman who owns a large portion of property along both sides of Beach Road, recounted the enthusiasm of the signatories, saying people were happy something was being done about the speed.
“The third [business] I went to was very interesting,” he said. “The gal she signed it and her employees signed it and she said, before you leave, you need a big hug.”
Board chairman Tristan Israel cautioned that while the idea has merit, it may be difficult to actually achieve.
“There’s a whole process involved in the state speed limits which is archaic and frustrating and which is why were really going to have to push on this,” he said. “I think it’s doable, but we’re going to have to, as a community, push.”
In other business Tuesday, as hunting season begins, Mr. Israel said a citizen had contacted him to complain about the use of guns on Ripley’s Field, a Martha’s Vineyard Land Bank property.
A bylaw that dates to the late 1800s prohibits the discharge of firearms anywhere in Vineyard Haven. The land bank allows hunting by permission on many of its properties, although on the three Tisbury properties where it is allowed, hunting is restricted to bow and arrow and muzzle-loading seasons. Under state law, muzzle-loaders, also sometimes called antique or primitive firearms, are not considered firearms.
Police chief Daniel Hanavan attended the meeting and said he interprets the bylaw to include muzzle-loaders. “Since I started way back in 1989 there was no discharge of guns in Tisbury,” the chief said.“That would include firepower rifles as well.”
Reached by telephone after the meeting, land bank executive director James Lengyel said he would write to the chief for an official ruling on the matter.
And as scallop season begins, shellfish constable Danielle Ewart asked the selectmen to place a moratorium on the use of scallop drags with teeth until a town bylaw can be prepared to make the ban permanent.
Ms. Ewart said no other towns allow the use of scallop drags with teeth, since the drags are damaging to eelgrass beds and the pond bottoms in general.
“I can’t believe it was never in the regulations,” she said. She also said most shellfishermen do not use the drags and are aware of the damage they cause.
Selectmen set a hearing date for Nov. 3 to discuss the proposed ban.
Also at the next meeting the board will discuss whether to call a special town meeting in January. Fire chief John Schilling told the board his department has had ongoing mechanical problems with the town’s primary ambulance, a 2007 Ford. Instead of sinking more money into the vehicle, he wants to take funds from the stabilization account to buy a new chassis for the vehicle.
“Historically it’s been a lemon since we got it and we want to get out from under this thing,” the chief said. A new chassis would cost around $110,000, about half the price of a new vehicle.
Selectmen voted to appoint Jonathan V. Snyder as the new town finance director. Mr. Snyder, a former selectman, takes over for Timothy W. McLean who has retired.

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No discharging of firearms
Tisbury voter Vineyard havenNo discharging of firearms back to 1800s,how did all the live stock get slaughtered for the markets ? Many homes back then had live stock all down Main Street and outside of town ,also I only know of law that said no discharge of firearms within 500 feet from a dwelling ,and a believe that article was passed in the late 1960s or early 1970s as a town bylaw.Im very confused about no discharge of firearm law back in 1800s.Did a lot of hunting in my younger years in Vineyard Haven and never new it was against the law.
To answer your question one
sam huntTo answer your question one first must read the by law written in 1883, it talks about discharging firearms on streets, ways , yards and Feilds for pleasure or sport. Now we know that in 1883 farmers shoot animals, they shot varmints, folks hunted to feed themselves. In fact into the 40's or later people would market shoot ducks for sale behind the breakwater in vineyard haven. We're all these people breaking the law. NO THE WERE NOT. The law was written to prohibit guys from shooting bottles of fences in town or other such sporty shooting that can occur when guys are having fun ( pleasure) I am sorry Chief but a peson hunting in ripleys field or any other place legal to hunt by mass law is not breaking the law. A chief before you tested this in court and the case against the hunted was thrown out as the man was feeding his family. Thank you from a native of town
I would ask Mr. Packer and
Tisbury Taxpayer Vineyard HavenI would ask Mr. Packer and the Slectmen to please take a slow drive from five corners to the bridge. Do you see any building except the bike shop that looks neat and well kept? NO! M.V.Times could use landscapeing and painting. The Boch Property eyesore. Delapated metal buildings eyesores. Than Mr. Packers buildings the small white building the nice brown oil tanks, the building across the street from the tanks, Winds Up building,The parking lot with large black wood pile, than the very best is a house in the middle of the lot EYESORE. We the people should sign a petition that all of the building's be cleaned and painted. Beautify Vineyard Haven.
Your telling the wrong ones
Tisbury voter Vineyard havenYour telling the wrong ones to see the problem in the area you mentioned it's not the Selectman it's The MV. commission who should see it,along with Stop and Shop.All the town boards just past the Buck to them and that's the bottom line,Tisbury needs to go back to locale rule.Also check out and see how much town Of Tisbury spent on legal fees against Boch project it will make you sick as a Tax payer,he had a great plan 20 Years ago along with the hole water front and the abutters,just remember some people and boards now what is good for us not the property owners.
How about we gals give Mr.
Frustrate Tisbury Vineyard HavenHow about we gals give Mr. Packer a hug and a gallon of paint? I find the term "gal" as somewhat sexist and outdated like the buildings along Beach Road.
One reason we do not want a 20 mph speed limit along that stretch of roadway is it will slow the pain in traveling through that eyesore of a roadway.
Posted limits are safest when
James C. Walker World traveler, including on the VineyardPosted limits are safest when they are set so that 85% of the drivers are at or under that speed, rounded to the nearest 5 mph interval. It is NOT archaic for the state to refuse to post limits far below the actual traffic speeds because doing so just increases the crash risks, especially for the more vulnerable pedestrians and cyclists. See our website.
James C. Walker, Life Member - National Motorists Association
Also on the ambulance repair
Tisbury voter Vineyard havenAlso on the ambulance repair on a vehicle that's a 2007 My vote is just get a new one ,we're talking about people's lives and a old vehicle that's going to have more problems down the line,Our Chief just said there's been mechanical problems.
I thought that 20 and 30 mph
Tisbury Driver TisburyI thought that 20 and 30 mph was the speed limit now ... maybe there are too many signs on Beach Road ...
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