<p>A proposed subdivision on Pine street in Vineyard Haven has raised concerns from abutters and some planning board members about the density of the project. The property at 14 Pine street is well-known in Vineyard Haven as the site of the Luce house; a developer plans to build an eight-lot subdivision behind the home.</p>
A proposed subdivision on Pine street in Vineyard Haven has raised concerns from abutters and some planning board members about the density of the project in the town’s residential center.
The property in question, 14 Pine street, is well known in Vineyard Haven as the site of the Luce house, a large yellow post-bellum home built in 1866 by John Luce. The house and property, which is 4.1 acres, remained in the family until last year, when it was sold for $1.3 million.
Paul Adler, a Chilmark resident who has been building homes on the Island for more than 35 years, purchased the property in August and came before the planning board in early February with a proposal for an eight-lot subdivision. The lots would all be behind the Luce house itself, which is currently for sale again; a separate group is in talks to purchase the home for renovation.
The subdivision would include a new road cut between 14 Pine and the neighboring property, 26 Pine.
The Tisbury planning board voted last week against referring the subdivision to the Martha’s Vineyard Commission after Mr. Adler said he would work to lessen density in the project. The public hearing for the subdivision was granted an extension and will come before the board again on April 1.
Wednesday’s meeting was the third time Mr. Adler had come before the planning board, each time bringing a revised copy of his plans. Guest houses on the property were eliminated in response to initial density concerns, a vegetation buffer added between the lots and abutters, and a catchbasin added to the proposed road to prevent runoff from going onto neighboring properties. The position of the road was shifted further away from the intersection of Spring and Pine streets.
Still, concerns remained for numerous abutters, who have been attending the planning board hearings from the outset. On Wednesday, 19 people turned out to voice their opinions on the project.
Many spoke of the impact that new construction would have on the neighborhood, which is located near the Tisbury School.
“Lake street and Pine street is just a constant flow of traffic,” said Ed Wessel. “Pine street and Spring, by the school, is a very dangerous intersection. Cars will come around me and cut that lane. It’s a dangerous intersection today, already.”
Others focused on environmental issues. The Pine street property has many oak trees that are more than 100 years old, and in order to accommodate individual septic systems — the subdivision is not in an area where sewering is possible — some trees would have to be removed. Mr. Adler stressed that he would work to keep as many trees as possible on the property.
“It’s just overwhelming that a neighborhood can’t be left alone,” said Susan Jones.
There was some discussion about whether it would be possible for the town to purchase the lots back from Mr. Adler to build a park. Last year, a warrant article proposing that Tisbury buy the lot was withdrawn by selectmen on the town meeting floor.
Mr. Adler reiterated that the property had been on the market for a year before he purchased it.
Colin Young spoke in favor of the project, saying there was a high demand on the Vineyard for housing, and that people should not turn down a plan to add more homes to the Island. The houses are expected to be sold for between $500,000 and $600,000, which Mr. Young said was standard for Vineyard prices.
“I just think it’s kind of unreasonable to be working on one end to increase housing, and then when someone offers to build housing [say] it’s too much,” he said.
Dan Seidman, chair of the planning board, had initially proposed referring the project to the Martha’s Vineyard Commission because of water quality concerns, density, and traffic. The property is close to Lake Tashmoo, which is suffering from high nitrogen levels. A report from the Tisbury board of health said that the property was not in the Tashmoo watershed and that groundwater would go into Vineyard Haven harbor. Mr. Wessel pointed out that pollution would still enter Tashmoo during tidal cycles.
“I want to acknowledge that Paul has done a lot of things that he is not required to do, and we do appreciate that,” Mr. Seidman said. “But I come back to the groundwater and nitrogen . . . even three years ago, it wasn’t really the issue that it is today.”
“I think what he does is good work, and people should know that,” said planning board member Ben Robinson. “Regardless of the number of houses back here, they’re going to be well-built houses.”
But Mr. Robinson echoed the density concerns.
“I think everybody in this room would raise their hands and say less density,” he said. “We can skirt around the issue, but it’s number of lots.”
Mr. Adler said he felt he could continue to work with the board without having to go to the commission. The hearing was continued to April 1.

Comments
This island has a critical
In need if housing VHThis island has a critical housing shortage. A solution will inevitably create higher density in residential areas. Everyone agrees we have a housing crisis but no one is willing to do what it takes to help if the solution is in their back yard. Such a shame.
Creating more housing will
BFCreating more housing will NEVER fix the housing problem. Why? Because it is just a fix for today. What about tomorrow?
If we continue to accommodate the masses, they will continue to expect it. And there is only so much to go around.
We don't want "higher density" nor do we need it!
Things are already at a point where all that once was is no more.
Also, there are things like water, and sewerage, and increased needs for police and fire protection and hospital service that needs to be taken into account.
We are full up!! Start saying NO !!
Attention to all Tisbury
Angela Cywinski Vineyard HavenAttention to all Tisbury residents/voters!!! The Selectmen will be finalize the warrant for town meeting tomorrow night at 5:30 pm. They have an article on the warrant to either purchase or take by eminent domain this property for a new town hall. Also, the warrant is loaded with many spending override articles. This is a good time to voice your opinion so the Selectmen could be persuaded to remove an article or two. I encourage all to attend the meeting tomorrow night at Town Hall.
Yes, there is a housing
Nathalie Woodruff Oak BluffsYes, there is a housing crisis. But I don't think selling homes for
$500,000 to $600,000 is the answer, unless you're talking about second homes for mainlanders.
Why build affordable housing
Christine Vineyard HavenWhy build affordable housing in Tilbury when we have the highest property tax rate? What planet is the builder from thinking 600,000 is an affordable price tag? There are currently 16 properties listed for sale up to this price range and 58 homes listed for sale with MLS in Vineyard Haven. Can we please stop building???
I agree with Christine about
Andrew Vineyard HavenI agree with Christine about the outrageous inventory in Vineyard Haven and Adlers plan to build more. Vineyard must FIRST clean up the total mess that everybody first sees when coming off the boat. The first impression everyone gets when coming off the boat hitting 5 corners and going down Beach Road is a long time total embarrassment which the selectmen have totally failed us on especially those of us who have property for sale in Tisbury! Can we please stop building and clean up the messes first???
So why should the developer
Islanders Care Vineyard HavenSo why should the developer be responsible for the prior "mess" you speak of in Tisbury? If you have a house, how can you in good conscience tell someone else they cant have what you have? If you feel there are to many homes now, then change the zoning, don't blame the developer for exceeding the current zoning regulations. The problem is you all wait for someone to follow your rules, and then when they do, you blame them. Blame yourself for not enacting rules you like.
Be thankful when these homes
deshandra brown mvBe thankful when these homes are built they will add to your tax base. Good luck to the developer when he tries to sell these homes with the high tax rate in VH. If an 'off islander' is foolish enough to buy ANY home in Tisbury, with the highest tax rate, and the 'double whammy' that allows the year-rounders to get a further tax break, they should get their heads examined. If you think you can grab this private property by 'eminent domain' because you don't like what is proposed, you better have deep pockets because I'm sure the developer would be within his legal rights to get whatever potential profits he could have made, if not for local bickering and politics.
I believe you have to address
Ken Edg.I believe you have to address sewage problems before building any more houses in VH.
Why not require a nitrogen
Dan ObWhy not require a nitrogen treatment plant on site to deal with the new construction? Tie all the units into one system. A similar project on the lagoon just did this.
Come on Paul Adler $500,000
Michael, VHCome on Paul Adler $500,000 to $600,000 is affordable housing? Maybe help get rid of the present inventory of Tisbury homes already on the market for those who want outta here. Who's trying to help who here?
Read the article Michael from
Jordan, from Tisbury TisburyRead the article Michael from Vh. The developer never said $500-$600k was affordable. But I know whatever he builds sells fast because it's built correct at the right price. I bought one and I am very happy
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