Nomans opened in 2019.
Ray Ewing

Harthaven Residents Take Issue With Music Levels at Nomans

A group of homeowners in Oak Bluffs is asking the town’s select board to turn the dial down on a popular bar’s music.

A group of homeowners in Oak Bluffs is asking the town’s select board to turn the dial down on a popular bar’s music.

About 40 members of the Harthaven Community Association have signed a letter urging the board to pull the plug on outdoor amplified music at Nomans, a seasonal venue with a large outdoor area. The issue came up last week, when the board was renewing alcohol and entertainment licenses for bars and restaurants in town.

Doug Pease, the president of the homeowners association and a member of the town’s zoning board of appeals, said the music from Nomans has become louder in recent years, raising concerns for neighbors.

“It’s noise creep,” Mr. Pease told the board at its meeting on March 11. “It was initially represented to us as acoustic music, non-amplified music. [That was] fine. You’re going to have somebody out there playing a guitar, hitting a snare drum; that’s very different than disco music late at night bumping.”

Nomans, which is adjacent to the Island Inn and opened in 2019, operates in the summer season, and is one of the largest outdoor bars and eateries on the Island. There is some indoor seating, but many customers order food and drinks at a counter, and then sit among firepits and yard games outside.

The restaurant regularly has music, either performed live or played by a DJ. The Harthaven homeowners have asked that any DJ or live music be played only inside, with the windows and doors closed.

Mr. Pease said that Lola’s, the restaurant at the location prior to Nomans, had music inside.

“Is there any reason we can’t revert to that?,” he said. “Because once it’s outside, it’s the thump, thump, thump of the bass woofers that just resonate throughout the community.”

The homeowners also alleged that Nomans improperly expanded its parking lot.

Nomans owner Doug Abdelnour was at the meeting, and said that some of Harthaven has been against the restaurant from the start.

“I expect Harthaven to fight us constantly, because they were fighting us before we even opened,” he said.

The board said it planned to go back to the original permit to see what select board members initially approved when Nomans opened, and urged the owners and community to come to a resolution on their own.

“That’s an important starting point for everybody,” said select board chair Gail Barmakian.

Opposition isn’t uniform in Harthaven, though. Several neighbors wrote to the board in support of Nomans, saying it is a benefit for the neighborhood.

“There is not another venue on the Island where community members can gather in large groups to connect with old friends they are only able to see once per year when on vacation on the Island,” wrote Harthaven resident Chrislan Fuller Manuel. “I acknowledge that Fridays (DJ night) might be a little loud but given that the restaurants on our Island only have a few short months to operate it seems to me that the Harthaven HHCA president should consider being more supportive of our neighbor by putting up with a little music one night per week in July and August.”

Mr. Abdelnour said that many of his customers are Harthaven residents, and historically there’s always been a contingent against whatever restaurant is operating there. The assertion that things have become more disruptive over the years is wrong, he said.

“The place was a year-round nightclub playing music ‘til 1 a.m. for more than 30 years,” Mr. Abdelnour said. “And Nomans closes at 10 p.m.... All of our entertainment ends at 9 p.m.”

Mr. Abdelnour, who also owns Nancy’s in Oak Bluffs, said that while the parking lot and restaurant can be jammed packed for about five weeks a year, so is the rest of the Island.

“If the beach was too busy and you couldn’t find a place to put your towel, would the decision be to close the beach?,” he said.

The select board did approve Nomans alcohol license and plans to pick up the entertainment license at its next meeting.

Comments

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 03/18/2025 - 13:49

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Oak Bluffs Resident Oak Bluffs

Noman’s does feel like it’s gotten out of hand since it’s beginning. I can see why neighbors may be annoyed. People have parked on private property and used private docks to access Noman’s. It is odd for the Gazette to refer to Noman’s as a bar when it is a restaurant located away from a downtown and in a year round residential area. I don’t see why islanders should need to compromise their quality of life so a restauranteur can line his pockets.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 03/18/2025 - 14:07

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Too much

I used to love Nomans, but the neighbors have a point. The shuttle to remote parking and the videos online show massive crowds like a club. It’s moved away from go eat with the kids to a dance party. Which isn’t a terrible thing, but permit it that way then.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 03/18/2025 - 16:13

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Enough Already Oak Bluffs

Do they remember Lola's and how it cranked up the music late into the night? And the loud revelers in the parking lot after last call? Noman's is tame compared to the good ole days!

Stephanie Daniel Philadelphia

Ditto. Lola's last call was midnight or thereabouts.
Maybe move the DJ inside but folks could still be outside dancing and vibeing!! It closes at 10!! Early by most standards..IJS...

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 03/18/2025 - 17:08

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Jorge A Vineyard Haven

Having the music end at 9pm on a summer weekend seems to me incredibly accommodating. Lola’s - which I miss dearly - routinely went until 1am. I feel like this is part of the continuing loss of knowing how to be a community, to live together we all need to make some compromises.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 03/19/2025 - 07:50

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rob the roofer new jersey

Lola's and the following restaurant bought from Lola that's name slips my mind was louder and continued until after midnight. Nomans entertainment is definitely quieter and under more control with a 9pm shut down.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 03/19/2025 - 08:37

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Wendy West Tisbury

Nomans is a fantastic spot that brings energy, great food, and a welcoming atmosphere to the island. A little music and community spirit are part of what makes summer on the Vineyard special. Let’s all take a deep breath—reasonable compromises can be made without losing what makes Nomans such a beloved gathering place!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 03/19/2025 - 08:41

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Wendy West Tisbury

It’s troubling to see a growing pattern of noise complaints shutting down beloved music spots on the island. Last summer, The Ritz had to cancel its live music, and Radio Farm was forced to stop hosting concerts due to neighbor complaints. Now, Nomans is under fire for its music levels. These venues bring people together and add to the rich culture of Martha’s Vineyard. If this trend continues, we risk losing the very spirit that makes the island special. Reasonable compromises can be made, but silencing these gathering places isn’t the solution.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 03/19/2025 - 09:21

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W Townsend Oak bluffs

Homeowners love to take advantage of the Vineyard large crowds for financial gains, but they complain about a fun family place to gather and dance that closes a 9pm. Let's be reasonable!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 03/19/2025 - 20:34

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Keeping it inside

The suggestion of inside, only like Lola‘s and every other restaurant in the area seems to make more sense

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 03/22/2025 - 16:03

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Jess Maryland

The fact that the music ends at 9pm and the entire venue closes at 10 seems quite reasonable. We aren’t talking about late night concerts and raucous noise here. Gosh, let people gather and have some fun at a reasonable hour!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 03/23/2025 - 11:35

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Jennie Driesen Oak Bluffs

Noman's is a great place, with friends from all over dancing, enjoying the DJ, or enjoying live music. Dog- and kid-friendly! Please, let's not eliminate this wonderful part of our community, especially on the weekend evenings. If some nights are too loud, let's turn down the volume a little and keep it outdoors and finished by 9pm. Too many places in OB have been forced to eliminate live music, and that is a shame.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 03/23/2025 - 16:29

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Carolyn Harthaven

I live across the street. And yes, there are a few times each summer when the parking is annoying and the music is playing, but Doug (the owner) is always SO responsive to issues and they do stop playing pretty early in the evening. I support them and think it would be a shame to lose the outdoor music experience there. Seems like a compromise would be to keep the levels down a bit for those that feel more sensitive to it.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 03/28/2025 - 11:07

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Jimmy Burgoff Belchertown, MA

Closing down the music at 9pm seems most accommoding in my opinion. As a professional musician for over 50 years, I can attest that much of the problem lies squarly on the shoulders of the musicians and DJ's themselves. It is an ego thing to play so loud. The sound of the music should extend no further than within the confines of the establishment. Since the 80's, there has been less live music in general on the Vineyard. The reason being, too much volume. The musicians are the catalysts for this problem.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 03/30/2025 - 07:19

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Cyndi Lewes DE

I've only been to Noman's a few times, but what a great place! To be able to eat and dance outside to old school music is reason to support Noman's. C'mon lovely people, it's only one or two nights a week in the summer and the music ends at 9pm. I only wish I had a home nearby; I'd open the windows and dance to the music.

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